Why This Became a Common Question
A growing number of Windows 11 users have noticed that the Start menu now feels larger, busier, and more difficult to keep focused on pinned apps alone. One of the most repeated complaints is the appearance of the “All Apps” section directly inside the main Start menu, rather than behind a separate click.
For people who treat Start as a compact launcher for a small set of pinned apps, this design shift can feel like unnecessary visual expansion. The concern is usually not about app access itself, but about screen space, clutter, and loss of the old simpler layout.
What Changed in the New Windows 11 Start Menu
In the redesigned Windows 11 Start experience, Microsoft has moved toward a more unified, scrollable layout. Instead of separating pinned apps and the full app list as clearly as before, the interface can now expose the full installed-app area more directly.
Microsoft’s current customization guidance also makes it clear that the Start menu now treats the Pinned and All areas as persistent sections whose view choices are remembered. In practice, that means users can often change how apps are displayed, but not always whether the section exists at all.
| Area | What It Means in Daily Use |
|---|---|
| Pinned | Apps, folders, and shortcuts you choose to keep visible for quick access |
| All | The installed app list, which may appear in category, grid, or list view |
| Recommended | Recent or suggested items that many users prefer to reduce or hide |
Can You Actually Remove the All Apps Section?
For most regular Windows 11 users, there is no simple built-in toggle in standard Settings that cleanly removes the All Apps section from the new Start menu. That is the main reason this question keeps appearing in user discussions.
What Windows currently supports more clearly is changing the view style of the All section rather than fully deleting it from the interface. Depending on device edition, rollout state, and policy availability, some systems may expose more control than others.
The key limitation is that customization and removal are not the same thing. A menu can be rearranged, collapsed, or visually softened without truly returning to the earlier pinned-only experience.
This distinction matters because many users are really asking for a layout rollback, not merely a different sorting method. At the moment, Windows often seems to prioritize the new Start structure while offering only partial personalization around it.
What You Can Still Customize
Even if full removal is not always available, there are still a few adjustments that can make the Start menu feel less intrusive.
| Adjustment | What It May Help With |
|---|---|
| Switching All Apps view | Can make the section feel more readable by using category, grid, or list view |
| Expanding pinned apps | Keeps more of your preferred shortcuts visible without extra navigation |
| Reducing recommendations | Can shrink visual noise if you do not want recent files or suggested items |
| Reorganizing pinned folders | Improves quick access and reduces dependence on the larger app list |
If you want the official overview of what Microsoft currently allows, the most relevant references are the Windows Start menu customization guide and the Windows Start configuration documentation.
Those materials are useful because they show the difference between user-facing customization and policy-based configuration.
Advanced Options Some Users Discuss
In discussions about this issue, two advanced directions appear repeatedly: policy-based configuration and third-party Start menu tools. Both can matter, but they should be understood carefully.
On certain Windows editions or managed environments, policy settings may allow stronger control over Start behavior than ordinary consumer settings do. However, this is not always available in the same way across all devices, and the exact behavior can vary by update channel and version.
Third-party tools are also frequently mentioned by users who want the old Start philosophy back. That may be relevant for power users, but it also introduces trade-offs such as update compatibility, maintenance burden, and a less predictable support path over time.
A useful rule of thumb is this: the more a solution depends on policy edits, registry changes, or external utilities, the less it should be treated as a universal fix for every Windows 11 setup.
That does not make these options invalid. It simply means they should be viewed as workarounds with context, not as a guaranteed native feature.
A Practical Way to Think About It
The most realistic answer is that Windows 11 currently offers limited control over the appearance of the All Apps area, but not a universally simple way to remove it completely. For many users, the real frustration comes from the fact that the new design changes the role of Start from a compact personal launcher into a broader overview panel.
If your goal is a cleaner interface, the practical path is usually: adjust the All Apps view, expand or refine your pinned area, reduce recommendations where possible, and only consider advanced tools if the built-in options still do not match your workflow.
In that sense, this is less a question of “where is the toggle?” and more a question of how much control Microsoft currently chooses to expose in the default Windows 11 experience.

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